Re: Fw: Re: DAML+OIL submission to W3C (copyright/patent)

From: Deborah McGuinness (
Date: 10/18/01

Dan Connolly wrote:

> Deborah McGuinness wrote:
> >
> > on the [party] below - does that mean that I sign it as an individual?
> >  AS WELL AS asking someone at stanford to sign it as "member company"?
> Stanford's not a member, are they? Oops.. yes, they are, I see.

yes - i initiated the membership process at stanford.  i am not sure that
all the i's are dotted and t's crossed on the joining but the intent is that
we are or will be a member asap.

> Anyway... they're only relevant if they have/own rights in DAML+OIL,
> or if they want to be one of the submitting organizations
> along with lucent.
> Is your work on DAML+OIL your own? or does it belong to stanford?
> or maybe to DARPA?

this is a somewhat trickey question.  DARPA has paid for much of the work i
generated on daml+oil and they have a non-exclusive right to use the work
forever.  Stanford pays me and if for example, something was patentable,
then they have a significant chunk of the patent royalties  (i also have a
portion of the patent royalties and my lab - Knowledge Systems Lab also has
a chunk).  Thus, i *guess* the answer is to some extent stanford (possibly
also ksl separately) and i "own" the work  but darpa has right to use.
This is probably the typical university scenario (except some may not have
the lab involved).
I *think* the typical company scenario is the company that pays you owns the
work - at least that was true for me when i was at att.  I did not even sign
my own copyright releases there.
i sign my own copyright releases at stanford though.

> --
> Dan Connolly, W3C

 Deborah L. McGuinness
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