Fwd: ANNOUNCE: new mailing list, www-rdf-logic@w3.org

From: Jim Hendler (jhendler@darpa.mil)
Date: 09/11/00

  More info re: www-rdf-logic mailing list.

>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:45:52 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org>
>To: www-rdf-interest@w3.org
>cc: Jim Hendler <jhendler@darpa.mil>
>Subject: ANNOUNCE: new mailing list, www-rdf-logic@w3.org
>Brief note to announce www-rdf-logic,
>a new RDF Interest Group discussion list for 'logic on the Web'.
>	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-logic/
>Copied below is the overview text I've just sent to a new list,
>mailto:www-rdf-logic@w3.org that we've created for technical discussion
>concerning the design of logic-based languages for use on the Web.
>A few words on the inevitable 'where do I post' dillema:
>We're all familar with the difficulties of scoping mailing list
>discussions, and with the high traffic levels on the RDF IG list. A number
>of projects have a need to discuss, in some detail, designs for logic-based
>Web languages -- the DAML initiative, as very helpfully outlined by Jim
>Hendler[1], being a notable example. While I think it is clear that the
>main RDF IG list is reaching its useful capacity in terms of traffic, and
>that RDF/logic discussion needs a home, there is no clear cut dividing
>line for partitioning our discussion. That's life: we will have to develop
>our intuitions as to what-belongs-where. The new list is for 'logic
>stuff, although logic crops up for example when we discuss our
>(occasionally varying) interpretations of the RDF specs. We'll make it up
>as we go along, following the broad outline from the list scope ([2],
>copied below). I'd discourage cross-posting. Occasional summaries from one
>list to the other would be handy, but both have online searchable archives
>so crossposting is likely to be overkill.
>Broad brush, the idea is that there are an increasing number of people
>working on RDF from a formal logic perspective, and that traffic on
>details of this are likely to be outside the interests of many on the
>main RDF IG list. Similarly, the logic discussion may proceed more smoothly if
>conducted on a list that is not addressing the details of W3C's RDF specs,
>syntax in particular.
>A tentative way of proceeding is for 'highly technical' logic threads to
>be initiated on the new list, and for threads from the main list to be
>occasionally transferred to www-rdf-logic when they get too
>detailed. There's a balance to be struck, but I believe
>the only way to find it is to wade straight in. So rather than spend ages
>debating mail list charters/scope, let's have the logic enthusiasts sign
>up to www-rdf-logic and see what happens! (this should be fun...)
>ps. for those who'd stumbled across it, the www-rdf-logic list obsoletes
>the semantic-web@w3.org address, which we never formally announced. IMHO
>there's more to the semantic web than logic, but that's another thread... ;-)
>[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-interest/2000Sep/0112.html
>[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-logic/
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:57:59 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org>
>To: www-rdf-logic@w3.org
>Subject: Introducing www-rdf-logic
>Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:58:02 -0400 (EDT)
>Resent-From: www-rdf-logic@w3.org
>Address for posting: www-rdf-logic@w3.org
>(un)subscribe: www-rdf-logic-request@w3.org
> with Subject: subscribe
> or   Subject: unsubscribe
>While W3C's existing work in this area has focussed on the XML, RDF and
>URI specifications, the www-rdf-logic forum is intended to facilitate
>discussion drawing upon a wide variety of research in the
>Web/logic/ontologies area.
>General discussion concerning the RDF model, syntax and schema
>specifications, implementations, W3C process etc. should be
>directed to the main RDF Interest Group mailing list (www-rdf-interest).
>W3C provide the www-rdf-logic forum as a home for detailed technical
>discussion of all approaches to the use of classical logic on
>the Web for the representation of data such as inference rules,
>ontologies, and complex schemata. The logic list, through association
>with the RDF Interest Group, also serves as a mechanism to provide input
>into W3C's Semantic Web activities, in particular relating
>to future directions for the Resource Description Framework.
>Context: Why www-rdf-logic ?
>This list has been called www-rdf-logic to reflect a concern that
>discussion of logic languages for the Web take place within the
>context of the broad Web architecture principles that informed the RDF
>design. This should not overly constrain discussions on the
>logic list: RDF was designed as a framework that could become
>incrementally more expressive. The initial RDF design focusses on
>simple binary relations between Web-identifiable resources. The notion of
>a resource is fundamental both to RDF and to the general
>Web architecture. In RDF, we model all our vocabulary constructs
>(relations, types etc) as first class (ie. URI named) Web
>resources. These basic principles (rather than the details of, for
>example, RDF's XML syntax) can be used to connect the basic RDF
>to more expressive logic/inference languages on the Web.
>     RDF home page, http://www.w3.org/RDF/
>     RDF Interest Group: http://www.w3.org/RDF/Interest/
>     Semantic Web Development: http://www.w3.org/2000/01/sw/
>RDF IG chair

Prof. James Hendler		Program Manager
DARPA/ISO			703-696-2238 (phone)
3701 N. Fairfax Dr.		703-696-2201 (Fax)
Arlington, VA 22203		jhendler@darpa.mil

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