% notes from JC telecon 11/16/04 % by Benjamin Grosof participants: Mike Dean Ian Horrocks Peter Patel-Schneider Benjamin Grosof Sandro Hawke Harold Boley ISWC-2004 conference reports by various people at main: Marie-Christine Rousset argued for limited DL expressiveness to enable efficiency on web scale at Rules workshop: Alun Preece on extending SWRL with constraints, is related to SWRL FOL. Christine Golbreich gave invited talk about SWRL uses. %%%% discussion on sameAs and differentFrom in the SWRL XML syntax (see Mike's agenda message): yes, let's make it exactly two arguments for each of these %%%% discussion on list builtin's taking as arguments: i-objects vs. d-objects, including variables (see Mike's agenda message): consensus: This is an issue that's thorny for RDF and OWL, and thus for SWRL. It's treated in OWL-Full but not OWL-DL. We should back off of including our list builtin's for now, and list this as an issue for future work. Ideas of alternative approaches: 1. ask Pat Hayes et al. how this is handled in KIF/SCL. 2. axiomatize in rules [Peter] 3. look at theory of how Prolog handles this %%%%