% notes from JC telecon 2/3/04
% by Benjamin Grosof

participants:
Mike Dean
Benjamin Grosof
Harold Boley
Sandro Hawke
Pat Hayes (joined midway)
Peter Patel-Schneider (joined midway)

o wrt planning for W3C Technical Plenary in early March:  
there's a draft agenda for SW IG (renamed RDF IG), 
could talk to Eric Miller,
they will have lightning talks,
Dan Brickley is doing the agenda since he runs that IG 

o idea:  maybe org a BOF at WWW 

o check out new SemWebCentral

o SWRL builtins list document 

Mike:  
should have our own namespace, not just rely on XQuery's, then 
use XQuery naming selectively

Benj and consensus:  
yes

Mike:
issue:  in name strings:  capitalization convention vs. hyphens

Benj:
have an intro section in prose, 
about concepts, uses, overview;
talk about binding patterns/modes as part of this

Mike:
maybe also logarithms and other math functions

Sandro:
would be nice to give a table of how our list compares 
to ISO Prolog, XQuery, XSchema, etc.

Pat:
would be nice for readers' sake to point out clear correspondences
when they exist

Benj:
also have a section on extensibility mechanism and 
library;
but what's our story about that, our proposed process
to manage future evolution -- e.g. in open source 
- Mike:  let future W3C WG tackle defining those
- Harold:  it goes beyond rules, other parts of SW may want to use as well
  . Benj:  yes
  . Sandro:  probably RDF Data Access too

Harold:
we should organize the builtins formally into a hierarchy,
e.g., based on the XML data types hierarchy

Benj:
do we want names for the partitions

Mike:
could be tedious

Pat:
could just define classes

Benj:
yes, separate the taxonomy from the naming;
permits overlaps between classes too 

Sandro:
seems process-wise that we could give our list to RDF Data Access WG,
then defer to their decision making process wrt finalization

another issue wrt doing that:  will the RDF Data Access WG tackle binding 
patterns/modes the way we would want 

Benj:  
also issue of divergence later:  we'll eventually want side-effectful
builtins as well

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future agenda:

let's hear from Drew McDermott about DRS -- FOL in RDF