Meeting Notes Jan 09 2000

Attendees:
Mike
Jeff
Deb
Dan C
Stephan
Jim
Frank
Ian
Peter
Lyn
Tim

Regrets:
(Ora)
(Pat)
(Dan)



Agenda:
Talk about namespaces stuff before Frank puts it in the ref document

Repository is broken (Ontology repository)
Broken Pages???

No corrections to the minutes (tho Tim had a new fact that refers to them ...)

DAML+OIL
list notation proposals (Stephan)
  representation of order in rdf ...
  short table listing the possibilities
  clear preferrence to figures 7 and 8 order or sequence 
	... which both correspond to well known things!
  do we want both ordered and un ordered?
  do we have / can we use first and rest? 
  they are there there are just no connections written between them
  ongoing conversation about this ..
  are there reasons for not using rdf:bag?  (no clear end?)
  explain the difference between what we have and what rdf has ...
  People want to use only subclassOf
  Jim says maybe two isn't all bad. (make it clear these are synonyms)
  Agreed to drop restrictedBy and keep subClassOf

**Change Empty to empty ...
**Change null to nil...

  Additional tags for restrictions? Current is the best?  Yes, only
  one (one comment).

  About vs ID - keep both and let the reference make sure they know they are not different!

  Documentation on both decisions today!

  (Heated) Discussion on dropping sameClassAs (using equivalentTo)
  In DAMl sameClassAs adds nothing if its written both directions
  In RDFS it does add something!
  Vote ... Leave things as they are but add comment that if you add 
    it in both directions you get more backward compatibility to RDFS (5 or 6)
  To have it the other way around (3)
  Editor says leave it the way it is!  Delegate to editor (*grin*)

  When release is ready, Jim will send out a message to rdf-logic (and on website)

  Next meeting -- concrete types proposal!!

  IRC DAML Chat ... for next meeting says Jim